Hook removers
Posted: 17 April 2007 03:15 PM   [ Ignore ]
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Anybody have any idea where to get a good hook remover for sharks? There used to be some made, but I guess no more. I have a prototype of a de-hooker that I am testing and I’d like to get one of these others just for comparison sake.

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Posted: 17 April 2007 10:43 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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Scott, I just bought one at a bait and tackle store in Dana Point. Looks like a fork at the end instead of the circle or V. Tim and I might try t out if the winds lay down this Saturday.

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Posted: 17 April 2007 10:57 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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randy - 18 April 2007 03:43 AM

Scott, I just bought one at a bait and tackle store in Dana Point. Looks like a fork at the end instead of the circle or V. Tim and I might try t out if the winds lay down this Saturday.

Randy

Did you see the report in Bloody Decks? Looks like LJ went off today, lots of YT on top! Go get’em!

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Posted: 18 April 2007 07:11 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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John, I cuaght that report and I’m hoping the wind lays down for the weekend.

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Posted: 18 April 2007 04:06 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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Hey Randy thanks. I’d like to see that thing.

Yeah, I heard the yt went off, but I was up at LJ (on land) today and I gotta say YUCK!! Not the chop or the swell, but the damn wind and the muck called water. One of the other boats at the dock was headed out today and I did not see them up there—in fact I saw only two boats up there at 2pm and both were in tight to the kelp. Randy let me know what you find if you go this weekend. The weather is supposed to lay down a bit. I’ll be out next week for sure looking for yt and threshers. The islands have to be just about ready to explode too…

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Posted: 10 May 2007 01:33 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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I would think any kind of sturdy forked instrument long enough to keep your hand clear of the sharp things would do the trick pretty good.

Do you guys use barbless for these fish? Sure would make it easier to remove. Trout I think are easier to keep on with a barbless,  but that’s probably not a good comparison as the fish obviously move in totally different ways.

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Posted: 10 May 2007 08:37 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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Tippet - 10 May 2007 06:33 AM

I would think any kind of sturdy forked instrument long enough to keep your hand clear of the sharp things would do the trick pretty good.

Do you guys use barbless for these fish? Sure would make it easier to remove. Trout I think are easier to keep on with a barbless,  but that’s probably not a good comparison as the fish obviously move in totally different ways.

I don’t have a lot of time with de-hookers, but here are some of the issues that I’ve encountered:

- If the fish is fairly hot at boatside, which is what you want if you’re going to release them, it can be very difficult to get a forked release device into the bend of the hook and get it to stick there long enough to push the hook out. You can imagine what happens with a Dorado, or a shark in “roll mode” next to the boat, while you’re trying to get the fork into the hook bend….

I think that’s why many of the “offshore” release sticks have a loop of some sort (including the ARC dehookers approved by the IGFA). You loop the device over the line, then slide it out to the hook bend. If the fish moves, the device will follow. The problem with loops it that they are rarely large enough to go over the head of a large popper or plug, and they obviously don’t work well with anything that has multiple treble hooks.

- If the fish is fairly small, it may be tough to get the device down it’s mouth. Also, if the fish is small (say under 5 lbs), it can be tough to use a dehooker on a solidly hooked fish, because when you shove backwards to back out the hook, the fish moves backwards, too.

I have a 5’ release stick with a loop, but I only use it on sharks hooked with a single hook or fly.

I’ve used barbless hook some, but not as much as I should. The times I’ve used them, I found them to be only slightly less effective than a barbed hooks on fish that don’t jump a lot.

The reason is that the drag of the fly line is often enough to keep the hook seated, even if the fish is running straight at you…Imagine that it takes a run away from you, then reverses course and heads straight back at the boat. With conventional tackle, you would get a lot of slack line immediately. With fly gear, the fly line drag will create a large loop which will be pulling directly backwards on the fish, keeping the hook seated.

I’ve had many times where the line off the rod tip is going straight off the stern, and the fish swims right by the boat, trailing the fly line. Of course, that all changes when you don’t have much line out - then it becomes a lot more critical to keep a tight line. But again, the flexibility of a fly rod helps maintain some tension. The main problem then is to crank fast enough to keep a reasonably tight line.

That said, I’m open to suggestions anyone has on better techniques to handle dehooking, or using dehookers!

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